DragonCon CEO feeling pressure from proposed boycott

Many plan to stay away because of event’s ties to accused child molester Ed Kramer

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In the wake of an Atlanta magazine article last September that detailed the financial interest that DragonCon co-founder and accused child molester Ed Kramer still holds in the Atlanta sci-fi convention, a campaign calling for a boycott of the annual event has been gaining ground.

How much ground? Enough that DragonCon CEO Pat Henry talked to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution about his efforts to buy out Kramer’s one-third stake in DragonCon/ACE Inc., the convention’s for-profit parent company.

Henry said his organization has tried to disentangle itself from Kramer’s ownership, offering to buy him out in 2004, 2006 and 2008. “I used to try to buy him out every week or two,” said Henry, adding that the $500,000 they offered for his shares in 2004 was high. “The company value was nowhere close.”

As the author of the Atlanta magazine story, I found it telling that Henry (no relation to myself) was finally willing to address the subject of Kramer in the media. He’d refused to discuss it when I contacted him last year and has kept mostly mum on the issue, save for an unsigned posting on DragonCon’s Facebook page in February telling fans that “there is no simple, legal, solution to this matter.”

Since Edward Kramer’s arrest in 2000, we have made multiple attempts to sever all ties between Edward Kramer and Dragon*Con including several efforts to buy Edward Kramer’s stock shares. Unfortunately, Edward Kramer’s response to our buyout efforts was repeated litigation against Dragon*Con…thus our buyout efforts have been stalled. The idea proposed of dissolving the company and reincorporating has been thoroughly investigated and is not possible at this point. Legally, we can’t just take away his shares. We are unfortunately limited in our options and responses as we remain in active litigation.

In the AJC piece, however, Henry says dissolving the company remains an option, “but is not as easily done as one might think.”

Horror author Nancy Collins, a former DragonCon participant and longtime critic, launched the boycott campaign in January to persuade convention guests and customers to stop supporting the convention while Kramer still holds a stake that earns him annual dividends of more than $150,000, according to court documents.

Collins takes Henry’s comments in the AJC to mean that reforming the corporation as a Kramer-free enterprise—a move she advocates—isn’t impossible, “but would be expensive as hell.” She plans to keep up the pressure for a boycott.

“It’s difficult to know how well it’s working,” Collins says. “I can only go by the fact that I hear word is spreading and people tell me folks are dropping out of DragonCon—and that (Henry) is finally talking to the media.”

Meanwhile, Kramer is being held without bail in Gwinnett County jail as he awaits trial for allegedly molesting three boys in Georgia—charges that date back to 2000.

The only good news for Kramer lately is that he likely won’t be extradited back to Connecticut to answer charges there for “risk of injury to a minor.” In September 2011, Kramer was arrested in a Milford, Connecticut, hotel room that he was allegedly sharing with a 14-year-old boy in apparent violation of his Georgia bond agreement.

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  1. Joel Adams

    March 29, 2013 at 8:30 pm

    ‘poor widdle Pat Henry. Maybe you shouldn’t have held those “Free Ed” fundraisers and publicly called the victims liars while lying about Ed’s involvement.

    To hell with reforming. Pat Henry and co. are scum and there are plenty of other cons.

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    1. Jerry Chandler

      April 2, 2013 at 4:36 am

      **”Maybe you shouldn’t have held those “Free Ed” fundraisers”**

      Yeah, because God knows that if anyone thinks that a friend or associate might be innocent of the crime they’re being accused of they should just turn their backs on them and refuse to do anything to help them clear their names. Certainly all people should hold to the high standards that you obviously hold yourself to and just drop someone like a rock, if not outright attack them, at even the first breath of an accusation.

      As someone who has been wrongly accused of a crime in the past as well as knowing a guy who went through a year of hell due to accusations of rape that were proven to be false, let me personally thank you for being nowhere near my circle of friends as well as hoping that you are fortunate enough to have only friends of your high standards around you who will turn their back on you in a second should you ever be accused, correctly or incorrectly, of a crime.

      People that knew him thought he was innocent early on. His actions long ago changed many of their minds. Not only did they put an end to the fundraisers, but the pro-Ed contingent actually threatened to boycott the 2005 Dragon*Con because they would no longer allow auctions and fundraisers at the con or using the cons name. Bringing up people trying to help a friend who wasn’t worthy of the faith they placed in him eight or more years ago simply looks foolish. You might have a point if they were doing this in 2010, 2011 and 2012, but citing such things from when this first started only looks foolish.

      **”while lying about Ed’s involvement”**

      I’m sorry, what lying are you referring to? You’re not referring to the much used talking point of the boycott pushers about the people running Dragon*Con having done everything they could over the last 12 years to hide the fact that Kramer was a shareholder, are you? Well, you can relax. This claim like so many others is not as accurate as they like to pretend it is.

      There are quotes out there as recent as, not counting the last year’s responses to the lawsuit settlement, 2009 and as old as from 2002 where Dragon*Con spokespersons and Pat Henry himself tell various media that Ed Kramer no longer has anything to do with running the convention while also identifying him as a shareholder. You can find the more recent statements on sites like the Examiner, geek sites like Airlock Alpha and Slice of Sc-Fi as well as the oldest one in an article written by some guy named Scott Henry on the Creative Loafing in Atlanta website. Nice 2002 piece on the then story so far. Has a nice bit about Nancy as well where it describes her with words like “fanaticism” and “zealot” and describes her as someone who “views every new detail about Kramer through the lens of her own convictions.”

      And that last bit is apparently a trait she carries on to this day as evidenced below. With pretty much no facts at this time whatsoever to support her assertions, she rattles off a list of people who, she implies, have canceled Dragon*Con because of the boycott. The Foglios have certainly made that statement. But the others? Must be true. After all, no one has ever canceled out on a major con in the history of conventions without a boycott to explain it.

      Oh, and then it turns out that her big drum roll cancellation is also cancelling other appearances in that general time frame at conventions not named Dragon*Con and not connected to Ed Kramer. Seems she’s still looking at everything through that lens, adding 1+1 and, without actually checking on the facts first, publicly declaring the answer to be 11.

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      1. Joel Adams

        April 2, 2013 at 10:39 am

        “Certainly all people should hold to the high standards that you obviously hold yourself to and just drop someone like a rock, if not outright attack them, at even the first breath of an accusation.”

        OK, now the long-winded idiots start showing up. The “first breath of an accusation” happened more than a decade ago and before any of these indictments (the three boys in Georgia and the one in Connecticut). Indeed, Kramer has been accused of these sorts of things before. You sound really ridiculous claiming my standards are too high when talking about child sex predators or like a card-carrying NAMBLA member.

        And who is the zealot here? Would that be this person who is calling to boycott this con over supporting a child molester or the rabid morons who attack her?

        But don’t blame her boycott for my hostility. Nancy and I are merely fellow travelers as I stopped supporting and denounced this con years ago and had never even heard of her.

        Yes, Pat Henry changes his story regularly concerning Kramer and how much support DC has given him over the years. I’ve followed this story from the beginning and am not only from Gwinnett County, but know a lot of “Ed’s boys.” It’s only a matter of time before some of them start coming forward with their stories of sexual abuse.

        I don’t give DC my money and have also actively discouraged others from going, furthermore, even gone to the DA with witnesses concerning Ed’s shenanigans since being released.

        You on the other hand, rationalize supporting a child sex predator by stuffing strawmen with red herrings. You’re not only a fanatic but human garbage. Enjoy supporting a pederast, you scum.

        But I agree. I think this boycott should be ramped-up a good bit, complete with letters to every guest concerning Ed and DC. Maybe Nancy will get a hold of me and we could see what sort of damage we could inflict.

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        1. Joel Adams

          April 2, 2013 at 10:44 am

          Oh wait, I just noticed it was you again, Jerry. How’s that blog going? I hear you’ve been prattling on endlessly about the grievous injustices done to you, Ed and DC again. I’d give it a go, but found your first entry on the subject so so horribly written it was offensive.

          No one cares what you think, Jerry, not even a little. Now go crawl back into your basement with your Cheetos and baby oil.

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          1. Jerry Chandler

            April 2, 2013 at 1:57 pm

            And yet, none of that drivel you just posted changes the fact that you, much like Nancy, made a statement that was factually wrong.

            Nor does it change the fact that the support offered Kramer by the majority of those who supported him did so in the early part of this farce and then slowly moved away from supporting him as his games raised questions. Yet you want to attack and insult them because they made the mistake of putting their faith in a friend and associate who didn’t deserve it.

            And I can understand your disliking what I’ve written on my blog. Since I’ve used linked facts and linked quotes to support things I’ve said and to show how much of what Nancy, Don and others have said is little more than one inaccurate statement after the other, well, you wouldn’t like that. I mean, who wants fact checking and facts when there’s a boycott call to support?

      2. Nancy A. Collins

        April 3, 2013 at 3:00 am

        Ah. You. The TLDR troll.

        So what are *you* hoping to get out of all this by frothing at the mouth over DragonCon’s “good name”? A free membership?

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        1. Jerry Chandler

          April 3, 2013 at 4:05 am

          Actually, we’ve already bought ours. And all I’m getting out of this is exactly what I’ve gotten so far. I’ve been able to show more than just a few people who were on the fence about this year’s con just how many of the boycott’s talking points don’t hold up to simple fact checking or logical scrutiny. And they’re now going.

          And they’ll likely show others who will in turn show others who will in turn… Well, you get the idea.

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  2. Nancy A. Collins

    March 30, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    The boycott is, indeed, having an effect on the convention. Hugo-winning artist and web-comics creator Phil Foglio and his wife, Kaja, were the first confirmed guests to cancel. Since then,several other previously confirmed guests/exhibitors have mysteriously disappeared from DragonCon’s website without a trace, including Geek Magazine, Don Coscarelli (director of Phantasm, Beast Master, Bubba Ho-Tep, John Dies At The End), Michael Cerveris (Fringe, Treme, Stakeland), Levar Burton (Star Trek: The Next Generation, Roots), and (drum roll) Patrick Stewart (Star Trek: Next Generation, X-Men, American Dad, I Claudius).

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    1. Wrenn_NYC

      March 31, 2013 at 6:41 pm

      Sir Patrick cancelled FanExpoCanada (the weekend before Dragoncon) due to filming (the rumor has it). I can’t find confirmation as to any reason given from either con as yet.

      It is more than likely that his film schedule took out both conventions’ appearances. When you deal with actors, such happens. A lot. Making assumptions as to why an actor drops off a guest list without any news relating to a reason is kinda futile.

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      1. Joel Adams

        April 1, 2013 at 12:33 am

        The moron almost makes a point, Nancy. Perhaps a campaign to email every guest scheduled for DC this year would be good. They should be informed that they are helping ed fight the good fight.

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        1. Nancy A. Collins

          April 1, 2013 at 7:39 pm

          Joel, if you want to email the featured guests re Kramer and the boycott, you’re more than welcome to do so.

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        2. mcdkimber

          April 10, 2013 at 1:56 am

          “The moron” eh? Can’t think of anything else but name calling?

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      2. Nancy A. Collins

        April 1, 2013 at 7:22 pm

        That doesn’t explain Levar Burton disappearing at the same time. Nor does it explain why everything relating to the 25th Anniversary of STNG celebration has been scrubbed from the website. And I know for a fact that Don Coscarelli & GEEK Magazine canceled because of Kramer’s financial connection to the convention.

        The boycott is one more factor for many guests to take into consideration as to whether or not its worth bothering to attend the convention. And if they’re looking for a good reason NOT to attend, this is it.

        Believe or not, there are some people in Hollywood who take exception to having their name and likeness connected to a company co-owned by an accused pedophile, and may resent the fact they unwittingly supplied funding to him by appearing at DragonCon in the past.

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        1. Sarmanji Abdulbaque

          May 20, 2013 at 8:03 pm

          I have no dog in this fight, and if the guy’s guilty, I hope he burns in Hell; but you make no kinds of sense. The 25th Anniversary of TNG was LAST YEAR. Of course, it’s been removed from the website. And the people you’ve talked about disappearing from the website? They were attendees from LAST YEAR. Patrick Stewart did cancel LAST YEAR, which is a huge shock, because big stars never cancel conventions when they get a more important gig! (That’s sarcasm, fyi). Someone should tell Bruce Boxleitner that he’s boycotting Phoenix Comicon. Headliners cancel all the time, and often show up the next year.

          There is one person from your list who was not a guest last year: Michael Cerveris. You might want to let him know he’s boycotting the convention, though, because he’s still listed on the website. I don’t even know who the guy it, but I’ll stop by his booth and ask him how the boycott is going when I see him. I’m sure he’ll be interested to know that you’ve taken it upon yourself to speak on his behalf to serve your agenda.

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    2. Joel Adams

      March 31, 2013 at 9:55 pm

      I highly doubt that the boycott will do much other than have guys like Pat Henry crying “foul,” as too many DC supporters continue to look for excuses and cockeyed rationales. But to them, when it comes down to brass tacks, child molesters are not cool, but giving up DC is too much a sacrifice for them, after all, it’s the only con on Earth and by making waves, people like us are giving sci fi/fantasy fandom a bad name.

      At least the Penn State morons eventually shut up and quietly conceded that children were being assaulted. DC fans, however, don’t mind a few virgins bleeding on the Dragon’s alter.

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  3. Wrenn_NYC

    March 31, 2013 at 6:22 pm

    It would be expensive as all hell — AND, it seems from the above, would put at least half a million into Ed Kramer’s pocket. And that is what people asking for the corporation to dissolve are asking for (and they consider THAT a ” Win”?)

    Gwinnett County DA has a lot to be held accountable for, for not prosecuting this man and resolving this issue years ago.

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    1. Joel Adams

      March 31, 2013 at 9:51 pm

      Clearly, you’ve not been following the case. The DA has been trying to prosecute this dirtbag for many years, however, he’s used every nefarious legal tactic (and a lot of money) to negate these efforts. The last time Ed started squealing for “justice” (to get the case dismissed) the DA went forward again with prosecuting. Kramer convinced a judge that he could not sit in a court room for more than two hours and stymied the whole thing. Later that year, he was in Louisville, Kentucky tromping through the woods and shooting a web series. After that, he got busted in a motel room with a little boy and you’re still an idiot.

      And so it’s gone since he was first charged and even before, when similar accusations were made against him. It’s deplorable that DC supporters seek to blame everyone else but Kramer and the financial beast that supported him. It’s unfortunate that OJ was able to beat that murder rap too.

      I stopped supporting DC when Kramer was first busted. If you want to give Kramer money, then by all means, be a dirtbag too, but play the blame-game among yourselves. The rest of us aren’t into the self-deception game.

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      1. Jerry Chandler

        April 2, 2013 at 5:21 am

        Hate to break it to you, Joel, but Wrenn is not an idiot and you’ve apparently not been following the case very closely yourself. The first few years of this case involved misstep after mistake on the side of the investigation and the prosecution that included everything from getting warrants thrown out for being unconstitutional to getting evidence thrown out for being irrelevant garbage.

        And, really, how bright are you if you give a known problem child house arrest without a monitor bracelet and you don’t have surprise visits now and then or bother to make sure that the phone that he’s using to make his call ins on is in fact a landline connected to a house and not a cell phone? The DA did an interview not long after Kramer was busted in Connecticut where he was, quite rightly, embarrassed by the arrest. Why? Because they didn’t even know that he was in Connecticut, let alone that he’d been there that long. I’m sorry, but as someone who works in law enforcement, I look at some of the things that went on down there and just feel embarrassed that it’s connected in any way to my profession.

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    2. Nancy A. Collins

      April 1, 2013 at 7:35 pm

      Whatever money Kramer is likely to receive from DragonCon–assuming they finally DO buy him out–will not be his for long. He has a conga line of creditors lined up behind him, including several of the lawyers he’s used and tossed away like Kleenex over the years. And once that money is gone–it’s gone.

      And the DA *has* been trying to prosecute him. Numerous times. Only to be thwarted by various rulings regarding Kramer’s health. Personally, I believe someone far higher up on the political food chain in Georgia was pulling strings for Kramer. Why? Who knows. But whoever they were, they appear to have either died, retired, been voted out of office, or have decided that he’s too big a liability, judging from his current situation.

      BTW, Kramer just got a new criminal attorney two weeks ago–thus delaying his day in court even more. Your DragonCon profits at work.

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      1. Jerry Chandler

        April 2, 2013 at 5:05 am

        **”Whatever money Kramer is likely to receive from DragonCon–assuming they finally DO buy him out–will not be his for long. He has a conga line of creditors lined up behind him, including several of the lawyers he’s used and tossed away like Kleenex over the years. And once that money is gone–it’s gone.”**

        Right, right… That’s a fun bit of logic there. Smaller amounts of money each year are 100% funding his ability to delay trial and fight justice by allowing him to afford throngs of legal defenders while also funding his traveling lifestyle, but a payment that might dwarf those payments is gone faster than a shallow puddle on a hot summer’s day because he’s in debt, has unpaid lawyers he still needs to pay and he’s up to his ears in creditors. There’s just a teeny bit of coherency problem going on here with the boycotters arguments.

        **”BTW, Kramer just got a new criminal attorney two weeks ago–thus delaying his day in court even more. Your DragonCon profits at work.”**

        No, that sounds like the local legal system at work. You are aware that in this country you do have the right to legal representation, right? That’s not Dragon*Con, that’s the legal system.

        By the way, do you realize how silly that argument actually looks? Do you realize how silly it is claiming that any money he’s gotten from Dragon*Con is what has kept him from going to trial for going on close to 13 years now?

        He hasn’t been making quite as much from Dragon*Con over the last 12 years as you and others seem to imply that he has been, but even if we take your numbers as unquestioned fact… Really? Seriously?

        The man allegedly makes a few hundred thousand a year and that’s all it takes to keep him from facing justice for going on 13 years? Hey, why don’t we crack open the archives for the last 13 years (or even longer) of news. You know what you’ll find? you’ll find news stories of millionaires, billionaires and multi-billion dollar companies who did not want to face trial going to trial and even facing verdicts. There was even this one guy a few years ago, you may have heard of him, who wanted nothing to do with facing a trial. He had millions at his disposal, access to some amazing legal representation and some rather well connected friends who were also rather vocal about not wanting him to face trial. The guy’s name was I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby and his friends included a then sitting President and Vice President and various other highly connected political figures. Not only did he face trial in rather short order, he was convicted in the process of that trial.

        Funny how there’s a huge pile of news stories from the last decade or two of millionaires, billionaires, celebrities and political figures who wanted to avoid trials yet still faced fairly speedy trials and, in some cases, convictions while one guy with nowhere near the connections and money of some of these people is supposedly avoiding trial for going on 13 years now supposedly due to money he gets from Dragon*Con.

        Hey, here’s a novel idea. Maybe it’s not been the money as much as it has been the system down there.

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      2. Icon

        April 2, 2013 at 8:06 am

        Kramer’s new lawyer:

        http://thesteellawfirm.com/Home.html

        Make sure you add him to the bonfire, Ms. Collins.

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  4. Anonymous

    April 10, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    Ok, think about it this way. He is not convicted, he is technically not guilty by law. He worked for that stock and he deserves a fair offer. My dad is Kramer’s lawyer. I know that his stock is worth way more than his offers. Could he have committed the crime? Yes. But that doesn’t mean he did. None of you have met him. None of you know the true story. Besides, there are probably people who are just as bad getting money from the stock. Stop boycotting dragoncon. It isn’t fair to the good people invested, and his involvement doesn’t effect the company, and he’s doing time. He earned that stock legally. Grow up.

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    1. VapRhap

      May 1, 2013 at 5:19 am

      Considering you’ve said your father is representing Kramer legally, I think it’s a conflict of interest you posting here. Forgive me if I don’t buy you purporting his innocence.

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  5. Old School

    April 11, 2013 at 5:48 am

    I met Ed Kramer growing up in the Atlanta scene in the 80′s. I was a very young boy at the time and I was an aspiring 11 year old photographer and artist. Ed was doing some photography at the time and was known around town to photograph a lot of the rock concerts. Ed was always very kind to people. Especially younger “nerdy” types of kids into science fiction, gaming (Dungeons and Dragons), and intellectually stimulating conversation. He had some social anxieties I never quite understood which included some nervous ticks and quirky mannerisms. He was definitely different than anyone else I have ever met in my life. Sometimes genius level people may act “odd” in social situations. In Ed’s case I believe he was so intelligent that he found it hard to relate to most normal people. I remember the day he told me he wanted to start Dragon*Con. He was comparing his ideas against the already existing “Atlanta Fantasy Fair” and wanting to improve on what they had going. I spent quite a bit of time with Ed back in those days. He would throw parties at his house and we would play Dungeons and Dragons all weekend, drink mountain dew, listen to Alice Cooper, and watch sci fi movies. I was a very good looking young boy back then. Yes, I was that boy that all the 11 and 12 year old girls in my school had a serious “crush” on. Some even professing their love for me through notes passed to me signed to me from “your secret admirer”. What I am getting at here with this info is that if Ed was seriously a “child molester”, I would have noticed something. I would have seen it or Ed would have tried something on me. I never saw any hint that he was a “child molester” or “pedophile”. He did surround himself with younger people (girls and boys), but there were always other people his age around as well. He just liked nerdy people. That’s why he started Dragon*Con. He did have some nervous ticks and he had skin psoriasis which would make his appearance slightly disturbing to some. If you didn’t know him he might seem a bit “creepy” appearance-wise , but once you got to know him then you realized that he was just quirky and slightly different. I never thought of Ed as a pedophile so if he truly is, then it is a deep dark secret that he hid from quite a lot of us. I can also see someone evil trying to take advantage of Ed because he had money and was friends with a lot of very famous people. He was also a very giving person. I saw him help out quite a few people several times. Someone evil could see this as a weakness and try to take advantage of this kindness. Is Ed Kramer a “child molester” or pedophile”? I’m not sure what the truth is at this point. I wish I knew. I never saw anything that leads me to believe he was. I never saw any hint of it or witnessed any pedophile type behavior. Yet people are accusing he molested his own stepsons. I wish he would just go to court and battle this thing out. It doesn’t make sense to me that he would molest his stepsons. There has got to be more to this story. Something just doesn’t add up right. If he truly is a child molester then he deserves the hell he is in, but if he is not then someone evil is trying to ruin his life. I spent a lot of time around Ed growing up and I never saw him act like a molester or pedophile. If I ever did I would have been the first person to speak up. Sometimes generosity and kindness is preyed upon by evil manipulative people. I hope we eventually get to the bottom of this and the truth finally comes out. One statement that really applies to Ed is “don’t judge a book by it’s cover”.

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    1. Nancy A. Collins

      April 15, 2013 at 8:43 pm

      But these boys *weren’t* his stepsons.

      Kramer’s never been married.

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      1. Old School

        April 17, 2013 at 11:44 am

        Oh ok I was wrong. It was the sons of the woman he had been dating for over 4 years that were planning to get married. So they would have been his stepsons had they actually gotten married. From what I was told from sources that know more about this than me, he took care of these sons of his girlfriend and treated them like his own kids. When the relationship between her and Ed started to unravel, she came up with a plan to act out revenge on Ed. She hatched out a complex plot of how Ed was a “molester” and took advantage of her 2 boys. The same 2 boys he had been helping to raise as his own kids for 4 years while he was dating her. Something doesn’t add up here. Why would Ed “molest” 2 brothers that he was helping to raise?… yet he had lots of other younger people around him and never tried anything on them? Even the actor kid in Connecticut said that Ed didn’t do anything to him and was just there to help take care of him since his mother was so busy. He said Ed made sure he was to the movie set on time, that he was fed, and had someone to assist him while his mother was away.

        Ed has not been convicted of any crimes yet. It seems like he is stalling and using his ill health as an excuse to put things off. This doesn’t make sense either and does look quite suspicious. Either way, something doesn’t add up here. Like I said, I spent days and weeks around Ed and while he is a complete “weirdo” from normal society’s perspective, I never saw any “pedophile” behavior or evidence of him being a “molester”. I would like to know the actual facts of his case. The actual facts with evidence beyond the shadow of a doubt. Is there a chance this could all be a plot to ruin his life and reputation from a ticked off ex-girlfriend? An ex-girlfriend with a serious agenda for revenge? Have you ever heard the old saying “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” ?

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        1. Joel Adams

          April 17, 2013 at 2:17 pm

          Dude, he was caught in another state in a motel room with 14-year-old boy, despite a no-unsupervised-contact order and lied to authorities about his whereabouts to go “take care” of this kid.

          Seriously, did you actually keep a straight face when you type this?

          Nice try in demonizing the mother. The only conspiracy here is Ed’s conspiracy to get out of jail again, beat yet another rap (the current indictments are not the first time he’s been accused of boy-diddling).

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        2. Nancy A. Collins

          April 21, 2013 at 8:37 pm

          Methinks thou dost protest too much.

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        3. ConGoer

          April 27, 2013 at 10:50 pm

          “Why would Ed “molest” 2 brothers that he was helping to raise?”

          Because all child molesters have cogent reasons for assaulting their victims? Why do fathers rape their own blood children? I don’t know, and considering how often boyfriends/stepfathers/fathers/priests/scoutmasters/coaches/etc are caught and convicted of sexual molestation, I don’t think we really need to have this question asked. But I will answer it.

          Why would Ed (or any molester) molest two brothers who he was helping raise? Because they were there and he wanted to. Molesters generally don’t have *valid reasons* for doing what they do.

          And seriously, the mother has spent the last twelve years pursuing this and her sons have gone along with it because hell hath no fury like a woman scorned? What about the other accuser who died and who wasn’t part of this family you’re openly accusing of lying? Was he just lying and and out for revenge on this woman’s behalf?

          Nice victim blaming and of course Ed is totally blameless in “forgetting” that he’s not supposed to be alone with kids when he was caught violating his bond agreement in Connecticut too… must have been everyone else’s fault then too, huh?

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  6. Ajax

    April 30, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    So i reading the comments and read a lot about this and the effects of this boycott will do to the city of Atlanta on wiki it says that “According to statistics provided by Georgia State University, Robinson College of Business, Dragon*Con brought in over $21 million of direct economic impact to Atlanta in 2007, and an estimated $25 million in 2008. It also raises tens of thousands of dollars for charities and hosts a large blood drive.” so what do you think it worth end the end 1000′s of job losses and city cuts does not seem economic smart to just shutdown Dragon*Con because of some trad

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  7. Nancy A. Collins

    May 5, 2013 at 10:49 pm

    For those who want to cite the dire importance of DragonCon to the Atlanta economy:

    The same weekend DragonCon is held the city also plays host to the Chic-Fil-A Kick-Off Classic which, as of last year, had an attendance of 75,00o +.

    The Decatur Book Festival, the largest in the country, is also held the same weekend with an attendance of 75,000-80,000.

    The Nascar Nationwide AdvoCare Night Series is held that same weekend at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. Attendance in 2012 was 90,000.

    DragonCon only has between 4-7 full-time employees and 1500+ unpaid volunteers.

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  8. George Burdell

    May 17, 2013 at 4:41 am

    Top 5 conventions for economic impact as reported by the Atlanta Convention and Visitors Bureau and published by the Atlanta Business Chronicle, 12/28/2012:

    America’s Mart Janurary Gift & Home Furnishings – 117.7 million
    America’s Mart July Gift & Home Furnnishings – 91.9 million
    Dragon Con – 40.7 million
    American Society of Hematology Annual Meeting – 38.2 million
    Bronner Brothers International Beauty Show – 36.6 million

    Some facts, Ms. Collins to help you out. Dragon Coin may have 4 to 7 employees, I actually think it is more, but their footprint is far larger.

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    1. Nancy A. Collins

      June 3, 2013 at 2:16 am

      Since you’e fond of facts, here are some courtesy of Find Law, the Georgia Court Appeals, and the Gwinnett County Justice Department.

      ” Finally, Kramer emphasizes that his attorneys failed to submit in the federal case the affidavit of SHERRY HENRY, a registered nurse who had evaluated Kramer while he was confined at the GCDC. In her affidavit, Henry describes Kramer’s deteriorating medical condition during his confinement and goes on to opine that detention center officials breached the standard of care in failing to provide Kramer proper medical treatment so as to prevent the deterioration in his condition.”

      Sherry Henry is the WIFE of DragonCon co-owner and current chairman Pat Henry and at one point was the convention’s Financial Officer.

      So much for DragonCon and its various board members not having anything to with Kramer since his arrest in 2000.

      http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ga-court-of-appeals/1207434.html

      You can also read DragonCon Con Chair Pat Henry & DragonCon CFO Sherry Henry’s testimony in support of Edward Kramer at his September 2000 bond hearing at the following link
      http://tessfowler.tumblr.com/post/51137722896/ed-kramer-dragoncon-boycott

      DragonCon has its chance to genuinely turn its back on Kramer and walk away for good, but this is what they chose to do–even after finding out about Kramer’s 1996 arrest for child molestation. They have no one to blame for this mess but themselves.

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  9. Anonymous

    May 19, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    “The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

    If it turns out he owns stock in Disney and Microsoft… should we start boycotting those companies because they ‘allow him’ to make dividends? This effort is pointless. The only people at fault are the members of our justice system.

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    1. Nancy A. Collins

      June 3, 2013 at 2:20 am

      Considering that Sherry Henry, wife of DragonCon Con Chair Pat Henry and DragonCon CFO, was at ground zero for Kramer’ using claims of “ill health” to avoid trial and jail time, I’d say there is plenty of fault to go around.

      The following is from Find Law, the Georgia Court of Appeals & the Gwinnett County Justice Department.

      ” Finally, Kramer emphasizes that his attorneys failed to submit in the federal case the affidavit of SHERRY HENRY, a registered nurse who had evaluated Kramer while he was confined at the GCDC. In her affidavit, Henry describes Kramer’s deteriorating medical condition during his confinement and goes on to opine that detention center officials breached the standard of care in failing to provide Kramer proper medical treatment so as to prevent the deterioration in his condition.”

      Sherry Henry is the WIFE of DragonCon co-owner and current chairman Pat Henry and at one point was the convention’s Financial Officer.

      So much for DragonCon and its various board members not having anything to with Kramer since his arrest in 2000.

      http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ga-court-of-appeals/1207434.html

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  10. Papa Emeritus II

    May 24, 2013 at 4:27 am

    Nancy can try to boycott DragonCon all she wants but it is a waste of her time other than to try to gain attention to herself. DragonCon will grow bigger and gain more and more fans. She will not be able to stop it. Ed has not had anything to do with the con in many years. Just because Ed receives money from his stock it does not mean he has any influence or participation in the con. He only gets money because he was a founder and owns the right to collect a percentage. This is the law and no one can take it away from him. They have made him offers and tried. The fact is, the con has grown and grown and it has now become a huge part of the Atlanta scene. It has outgrown any other con in the world of it’s type and will continue to do so. Nancy’s efforts are a way to gain attention for herself but it will not affect DragonCon. It would be the equivalent of boycotting Christmas at this point. Very few people will listen and it may even backfire on the protestors. Why hold DragonCon responsible for what Ed did? DragonCon belongs to the fans, not Ed. When Ed dies, then who will you blame?

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    1. Nancy A. Collins

      June 3, 2013 at 2:10 am

      The following is courtesy of Find Law.

      ” Finally, Kramer emphasizes that his attorneys failed to submit in the federal case the affidavit of SHERRY HENRY, a registered nurse who had evaluated Kramer while he was confined at the GCDC. In her affidavit, Henry describes Kramer’s deteriorating medical condition during his confinement and goes on to opine that detention center officials breached the standard of care in failing to provide Kramer proper medical treatment so as to prevent the deterioration in his condition.”

      Sherry Henry is the WIFE of DragonCon co-owner and current chairman Pat Henry and at one point was the convention’s Financial Officer.

      So much for DragonCon and its various board members not having anything to with Kramer since his arrest in 2000.

      http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ga-court-of-appeals/1207434.html

      You can also read DragonCon Con Chair Pat Henry & DragonCon CFO Sherry Henry’s testimony in support of Edward Kramer at his September 2000 bond hearing at the following link
      http://tessfowler.tumblr.com/post/51137722896/ed-kramer-dragoncon-boycott

      FYI: DragonCon does not “belong” to the fans. If it did, each fan in attendance would receive a portion of its 500K in profits. DragonCon is NOT thousands of fans. It is a for-profit corporation consisting of small group of people, one of whom is Edward Kramer, that pays a small handful of full-time employees while relying on thousands of unpaid volunteers, in violation of Federal labor laws, to actually run their convention.
      Fans believing they “are” DragonCon” simply because they pay money to attend the convention are like baseball fans claiming to play for the Yankees simply because they bought a seasons ticket and a T-shirt with a player’s number on it.

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      1. Sarah

        July 8, 2013 at 6:28 pm

        Well Kramer is gone forever from Dragon Con, now you can let the con be.

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