Pero Antić, the Big Man from Macedonia

Pero Antić loves tattoos, muscle cars, barbecue, and teamwork. He’ll do just fine in Atlanta.

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When Pero Antić steps onto the court on October 30 for the Hawks’ season opener, he’ll become the first Macedonian to play in the NBA. It’s an overdue feat, both for Antić and hoops-mad Macedonia, but sooner or later a big man from this tiny Balkan country was destined to make the leap. Macedonian, after all, comes from the ancient Greek word Makedones—“the tall ones.”

At six feet eleven, 260 pounds, with a shaved head and a riot of tattoos, Antić passes the dark-alley test of an NBA enforcer. His power forward game, however, is more finesse than brute force.

Antić’s professional career began at seventeen in Macedonia. He hopped around Europe playing for teams in
Greece, Serbia, Bulgaria, and Russia before helping Greek powerhouse Olympiacos win back-to-back Euroleague championships. Two years ago he captained the Macedonian team to a surprising fourth-place EuroBasket finish. We spoke by phone shortly before he came to Atlanta.

You’ve been playing professionally for more than a decade. Why come to the NBA now? After the two Euroleague championships, I just felt that I could still show something. I am thirty-one. I had some offers in Europe maybe twice as rich as what I will earn in Atlanta, but I don’t want to be the guy who says, “I could have gone to the NBA, but I didn’t because of this or that.” I don’t run away from things. It’s now or never.

Had there been opportunities to play in the NBA before? I was supposed to go to the Orlando Magic—I was in Orlando for workouts, and I received an offer in Europe I couldn’t refuse. (I was supposed to get the league minimum in the NBA.)

Just how popular is basketball in Macedonia? It’s very big—it’s the main sport. In 2011 it was the strongest EuroBasket tournament in years because all the NBA players played, and we won fourth place and almost went to the finals.

And this is from a country with how large a population? It’s 2.1 million people. Atlanta is double. Half of Atlanta can just come and take our country!

What was the reaction in Skopje to your signing with the Hawks? Atlanta just signed a contract with 2 million new fans. People told me, “Finally we have a player in the NBA. We’ll have a reason to stay up late”—because the games are on at 3 or 4 a.m. “It’s going to be your fault, but I’m going to enjoy all these sleepless nights.” The president of Macedonia called me and said that everyone is so happy.

What do you think will be the most difficult adjustment? I don’t think it’s going to be difficult, but it’s going to be a little strange. Whatever you have been in Europe—you have played and won championships—that doesn’t mean anything in the NBA. You have to fight for your spot.

Do you remember who your first favorite NBA player was as a kid? Like for everybody, it’s M.J. And I like Kevin Garnett.

Who first put a basketball in your hands? My father was a professional basketball player in Yugoslavia for fourteen years.

Ah—so probably he did. We saw his medals at home—they were our toys. There was a lot of basketball at home. Then in one year I grew twelve centimeters. I was fourteen. In my mind, I just wanted to score over the older guys. Then they took me on one of the national youth teams.

How many more good years do you think you have left in your career? I think I have four to five good years. After that I will hang the shoes up and deal more with the family and try to help Macedonian basketball go higher.

You have many tattoos. What’s the first one you got? I have one on my left leg, almost on the calf, that I wanted to be a star and have a basketball and around it to have Chinese symbols. But to be honest, I only know half of them now.

You mean the symbols? It was 2002. I know what I put on, but which one is which? I put eight of them on.

I read that cars are one of your hobbies. Yeah, almost every year I buy one Ford Mustang GT. I love American muscle cars. For sure I will get something in the States and bring it back.

When you were a child, Macedonia was still part of Yugoslavia, right? Yes, but we were speaking our own language—you had to know the Serbian language, too, because it was universal.

How old were you when Yugoslavia broke up into separate countries? I was maybe seven years old. After the falling apart of Yugoslavia, like the Soviet Union, all these countries—Bosnia, Croatia—became separate countries. You can say that Macedonia is a new country.

But it’s also very ancient—Alexander the Great is from Macedonia. Yes, this is his small, great country. We have a very big monument of him in Skopje on his horse, nineteen meters high. He started everything. After he died, slowly all of it started to fall apart. But at least we are still here.

What Macedonian food are you going to miss? I will invite you to come here, to taste all the foods—everyone will love it. Moussaka, shawarma, rolled meat with grape leaves. I have to make a Macedonian barbecue for you.

So barbecue is big there, too? We arrange with families to come, and always there’s one guy who’s at the barbecue who won’t leave until he finishes.

That might be one thing in common between Macedonia and the South. In the States everyone has barbecue.

What else can you tell the fans in Atlanta about Macedonia? Macedonia is a very warmhearted country. We love everybody who comes. Macedonia is small on the map but very big in the heart.

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Paul Millsap
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Elton Brand
Until injuries slowed him down, Brand was a beast. Playing forward for the Bulls and the Clippers, he averaged 20.3 points and 10.2 rebounds a game, twice making the All-Star team. At thirty-four, with a repaired shoulder and Achilles tendon, Brand knows he is now a role player—last season in Dallas was his first time primarily coming off the bench. He remains an effective post player and a pick-and-pop partner for speedy guards like Jeff Teague. He’s one of the league’s most respected locker-room guys, and the team
will benefit from his steadying presence.

DeMarre Carroll
In a Carroll highlight reel, you won’t find dazzling crossover dribbles, silky smooth post moves, or windmill dunks. What you will see is sheer exertion: floor dives for loose balls, second- and third-effort rebounds, disrupted fast breaks, deflected passes, hands everywhere. The Hawks are Carroll’s fifth team in as many years, but his unbridled hustle and his scrappy style of play have kept the six-feet-eight forward in the league and earned the respect of fans and teammates alike.

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  1. Joe Jablonski

    November 1, 2013 at 1:08 pm

    Why don’t the author and athlete stick to basketball instead of talking about history. They both sound like ignoramuses.

    Alexander the Great has nothing to do with this SerboBulgarianAlbanian country officially call the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

    1. Bojan

      November 2, 2013 at 3:23 am

      I totally agree with your comments about the interview. I totally disagree that Alexander has nothing to do with the Macedonians from the Republic of Macedonia. His father was Phillip, who was hated by the Greeks. Demosthenes said about Phillip: “… not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave”.

      Do not deny history. I know it hurts. If Macedonia can be called FYROM, Greece can be totally called Former Ottoman Province of Turkey. Same thing.

      1. john

        November 2, 2013 at 6:05 am

        The only one denying history is Bojan. The last time I checked the language you speak in your country is slavic. The Slavs didn’t come to the Balkans until thousands of years later. How the hell can you claim to have a connection to the Macedonians is beyond me. If you weren’t so dangerous you would be funny.

      2. Manolis

        November 2, 2013 at 11:08 am

        Kiro Gligorov: “We are Macedonians but we are Slav Macedonians. That’s who we are! We have no connection to Alexander the Greek and his Macedonia… Our ancestors came here in the 5th and 6th century” (Toronto Star, March 15, 1992).

      3. Ted Andrews

        November 2, 2013 at 5:08 pm

        It is totally understandable that you people need history to justify your existence, so you have to make things up. But you are not even remotely close to the Greeks (and as a consequence you’re miles away from Alexander the Great). That’s commonly accepted at every serious university of the world. You should accept yourselves as what you are and not invent stories to separate yourselves from Albania. It is not decent to steal other’s heritage.

      4. alex

        November 3, 2013 at 3:50 am

        Demosthenes didn’t say that, don’t try to fool people
        we all know history here except you

      5. James Jameson

        November 3, 2013 at 8:03 pm

        @Bojan

        I think the frustration is caused by the fact a newborn country int he attempt to define itself it’s plagiarizing the historic of Macedonian Greeks.

        Bottom line:

        The argument if Alexander the Great was a Slav or a Greek doesn’t’ stand simply because the Slavs occupying the now self-named country of “Macedonia” came to the region 1000 years after Alexander was born. So for sure he was not a Slav.

        The real issue is if Alexander the Great was Greek or not. So why don’t we “listen” to him how how he feels?

        As mentioned previously he said:
        Quote No1:

        He said in his own language, which just by coincidence was the GREEK Doric dialect: “Ευγνωμονώ τοις Θεοίς ότι εγεννήθην Έλλην” which means “I thank the gods for being Greek“.

        Quote No2:

        A letter he sent to the Persian king Darius III: “your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas [Greece] and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you“.

        Quote No3 : Speaking to Athenians and Thebians: “We are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions“.

        The argument he was not Greek because of the rest of the Greeks dislike his father– this was typical as the Athenians did not like the Spartans or any other Greek city-state that was coming to power.

        Hope you understand the basis of the frustration of the Macedonian Greeks as much as that of the Laconian Greeks, the Thessalian Greeks, the Thracean Greeks, and the entire people of Greece that as bankrupt as they are financially, they certainly not of History and pride.

        Thank you.

        JJ

    2. Bobby

      November 2, 2013 at 1:13 pm

      I can’t understand why so much hate to somebody? You would like to know history, but you can’t. BECAUSE YOU ARE STUPID, MY MAN. The history of Macedonia is much bigger than you could understand, but since the Greeks (according to your name you are not Greek???), took that territory after the Balkan wars, the new history is written. There is a plenty of documents about Macedonians, but you don’t know them… because you are stupid, right? The name of the Balkans (Turkish word for Bal – honey, and Kan – blood), previously was Macedonia… and there is a lot of documents about that… The Greek country was founded by European countries (France, Germany, and if you could believe – RUSSIA), just to stop expansion of Muslims/Turks in Europe. But you can’t know this… why??? Because you are … you know the answer??? Or not, because you are stupid. You have a Jew surname…. did you know what was the prime job of Jews in southern part of Macedonia, especially Thessaloniki (Macedonian name is Solun) when the Greeks has occupied the southern part of Macedonia? To gather and to burn all the bodies that Greeks have killed in those months (years) of exodus. And after decades, there is a French (ex-Prime Minister) Sarkozy, who told to the world that he was very happy that his origins are from Greece??? What a dumb-ass. This is the example of somebody who don’t know his own history! His grand grand parents came from Spain, settled in Macedonian town, lived with Macedonians and Turks there… and then his origins are from Greece? There is a lot of stuff i would like to write…. but i don’t have time to spend on people like you…. I understand Greeks, they are afraid that someday EU will tell them that they must to return all the land and houses and everything else, to those who have the documents…. That is the truth about Greek hate against Macedonians… We have the land documents, not those “people”. Today is Saturday, it’s a great day to start reading :-)

      1. dimitrios

        November 12, 2013 at 8:59 am

        FYROM Name Issue

        The issue of the name of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is not just a dispute over historical facts or symbols. It concerns the conduct of a UN member state, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, which contravenes the fundamental principles of international law and order; specifically, respect for good neighbourly relations, sovereignty and territorial integrity.

        The name issue is thus a problem with regional and international dimensions, consisting in the promotion of irredentist and territorial ambitions on the part of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, mainly through the counterfeiting of history and usurpation of Greece’s national and historical heritage.

        The name issue arose in 1991, when the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia seceded from Yugoslavia and declared its independence under the name “Republic of Macedonia”.

        Historically, the term “Macedonia”, which is a Greek word, refers to the Kingdom and culture of the ancient Macedonians, who belong to the Hellenic nation and are unquestionably part of Greek historical and cultural heritage.

        Geographically, the term “Macedonia” refers to a wider region extending into the current territory of various Balkan countries, with the largest part of the region being in Greece and smaller sections in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Bulgaria and Albania. The core of what was ancient Macedonia lies within contemporary Greek borders, comprises the northern portion of the Greek state, and is called Macedonia. Some 2.5 million Greeks reside in this region today and they and their forebears have considered and called themselves Macedonians through the centuries.

        The roots of the name issue go back to the mid-1940s, when, in the aftermath of the Second World War, Commander in Chief Tito separated from Serbia the region that had been known until that time as Vardar Banovina (today’s Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia), giving it the status of a federal unit of the new Socialist Federal Republic of Macedonia, renaming it, initially, the “People’s Republic of Macedonia”, and, later, the “Socialist Republic of Macedonia”. At the same time, he started to cultivate the idea of a separate and discrete “Macedonian nation”.

        Tito of course had many reasons for making these moves, the main one being to lay the foundations for future Yugoslavian territorial claims in the wider region of Macedonia and secure an opening on the Aegean. Tito’s intentions in the wider Macedonian region had been confirmed as early as 1944, when he declared publicly that his goal was to reunify “all the sections of Macedonia that were broken up in 1912 and 1913 by the Balkan imperialists.”

        A December 1944 State Department dispatch to the U.S. authorities, signed by the US Secretary of State at the time, Stettinius, noted, among other things, that “This [US] Government considers talk of Macedonian “nation”, Macedonian “Fatherland”, or Macedonian “national consciousness” to be unjustified demagoguery representing no ethnic, nor political reality, and sees in its present revival a possible cloak for aggressive intentions against Greece.”

        Against this historical background, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia declared its independence in 1991, basing its existence as an independent state on the artificial and spurious notion of the “Macedonian nation”, which was cultivated systematically through the falsification of history and the exploitation of ancient Macedonia purely for reasons of political expediency.

        Greece reacted strongly to the theft of its historical and cultural heritage and the treacherous territorial and irredentist intentions of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, and the issue came before the UN Security Council, which, in two resolutions [817(1993) and 845(1993)] recommended that a settlement be found quickly, for the sake of peaceful relations and good neighbourliness in the region.

        In 1993, following a recommendation from the Security Council, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia was accepted, by decision of the General Assembly, into the United Nations under this provisional name, until such time as an agreed solution is reached.

        In 1995, Greece and the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia concluded an Interim Accord, which imposed a binding “code of conduct”.

        Based on the Interim Accord, the two sides began negotiations under the auspices of the UN. These negotiations have continued to this day.

        In the time that has elapsed since the signing of the Interim Accord, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia has systematically violated the letter and spirit of the Accord, as well as the obligations deriving from it:

        • by promoting territorial designs against Greece through the portrayal on maps, in school books, in history books, etc., of Greek territory as being within the territory of a “greater” Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, in violation of articles 2, 3, 4 and 7.1;

        • by supporting irredentist claims and inciting nationalistic feeling within Greece, in violation of article 6.2;

        • by using the name “Republic of Macedonia” in international organizations – including the United Nations – that it has joined under the condition that it use the provisional name “Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia”, in violation of the relevant commitments provided for in article 11.1 (even on the floor of the UN General Assembly, the then-president of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia stated that “the name of my country is and shall remain the Republic of Macedonia”);

        • by using symbols – including the Vergina Sun and other symbols that are part of Greece’s historical and cultural heritage – the use of which is prohibited under article 7.2. Other instances of this violation include the renaming Skopje’s airport “Alexander the Great”, the raising of statues of Alexander the Great and Philip II, and naming the section of Corridor X that passes through the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia “Alexander the Macedonian”, construction of the “Porta Macedonia” arch, the surface of which bears carved reliefs depicting scenes from ancient Greek history and the Vergina Sun, as well as express reference to “Aegean Macedonia”.

        • by taking or tolerating provocative actions that incite hostility and fanaticism, including desecration of the Greek flag and substitution of the Nazi swastika for the Christian cross, harassment of Greek businesses, businesspersons and tourists, etc., in violation of article 7.1, irredentist slogans shouted by Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia supporters at international sporting events, actions both provocative and insulting to Greece at the Carnival of Vevčani, which is funded by the Culture Ministry of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia.

        A fundamental principle of every negotiation between states is that the involved parties must negotiate in good faith and a constructive spirit, and exhaust every possibility of reaching a compromise solution.

        Greece is firm in its sincere will to achieve a viable solution of the issue of the name of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia. We have made clear to everyone that the framework for a solution that our country can consent to is a name that includes a clear qualifier, leaves no room for disputes regarding the distinction between the territory of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and the region of Macedonia in Northern Greece, and is used in relations to everyone (erga omnes) and for all purposes.

        In October 2012, the Greek government took a major initiative aimed at imparting momentum to the negotiation process for the resolution of the name issue. The Greek Foreign Minister sent a letter to his Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia counterpart, proposing that the two countries sign a Memorandum of Understanding that would set out the framework and basic parameters for the definitive resolution of the name issue. Specifically, this letter proposed that in order to provide a fresh impetus to the substance of the negotiations under the auspices of the UN Secretary-General, it is necessary to proceed on the basis of an agreed framework on the basic parameters of a solution which should include an agreement on the fact that any proposal should contain a clear and definitive qualifier regarding the name, which will leave no ambiguities as to the distinction between the territory of the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and regions in neighbouring countries, in particular, the region of Macedonia in northern Greece, and that the name agreed upon will be used by all erga omnes and for all purposes. The international response to this proposal was positive.

        In its response, the side of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, while thanking the Greek side for its proposal, reiterated its longstanding positions, essentially dismissing the Greek proposal.

        The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia has so far not responded to Greece’s moves and insists intransigently on its initial position, which it is attempting to impose de facto internationally, with the result that substantial progress has not been made in the 19 years of negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations.

        It is clear that through this stance the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia is failing to respect the principle of good neighbourly relations.

        Within this framework, at the Bucharest NATO Summit in April 2008, the members of the Alliance decided in a collective and unanimous decision that an accession invitation will be extended to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia only if the name issue has been resolved in a mutually acceptable manner. This decision has been reaffirmed and reiterated at all subsequent NATO Summits, including those in Strasbourg (2009), Lisbon (2010), and Chicago (2012).

        On 17 November 2008, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia applied to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) in The Hague against Greece, alleging that Greece raised objection to the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia’s accession to NATO at the Bucharest Summit in 2008.

        In this case, the International Court of Justice in The Hague did not go into the substance of the name dispute, noting that it does not have the relevant jurisdiction, and that the dispute must be resolved within the framework determined by the resolutions of the UN Security Council: through negotiations under the auspices of the UN. The ICJ also called on the two sides to engage in substantial negotiations under the auspices of the UN.

        The Ruling does not concern and could not concern the NATO decision-making process or the criteria and requirements the Alliance sets for countries aspiring to NATO membership.

        At the June 2008 European Council the EU decided, in a collective and unanimous decision, that the resolution of the name issue in a mutually acceptable manner is a fundamental necessity if further steps are to be taken on the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia’s EU accession course.

        In December 2012, the European Council decided, in a collective and unanimous decision, that the opening of EU accession negotiations with the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia hinges on implementation of the necessary reforms, promotion of and respect for good neighbourly relations, and the resolution of the name issue within the framework of the negotiations under the UN. The resolution of the name issue is thus set as a prerequisite for the opening of accession’s negotiations between the EU and the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, and as a criterion for the maintaining of good neighbourly relations with Greece.

        Greece supports rather than opposes the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia’s European and Euroatlantic perspective. It was also with Greece’s consent that the visa requirement for citizens of the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia was abolished. But the basic objective prerequisite for the continuation and completion of the European and Euroatlantic courses of every candidate country is adoption of and respect in practice for the fundamental principles of the organization they want to join, and particularly the principle of good neighbourly relations, which is the basis for a partnership or alliance between states.

        Instead of acknowledging and appreciating Greece’s support for its European and Euroatlantic course, the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia usually answers Greece’s gestures of support with fresh provocations and a hardened stance.

        A compound name with a geographical qualifier for use in relations to everyone (erga omnes) is the best possible basis for finding an honest, mutually beneficial compromise that will not create winners and losers, but will lay the foundations for the development of a healthy and stable bilateral relationship based on the principle of respect for good neighbourly relations, and will strengthen peace and stability in the wider region.

        Greece desires and is pursuing the mutually acceptable, clear and definitive resolution of the name issue – through a solution that will not create tensions in the future – at the soonest possible time

        The Greek government is making every effort towards this direction. Greece remains steadfastly dedicated to the negotiation process under UN special envoy Matthew Nimetz.

        Despite the existence of this serious issue, which impacts the relations between the two countries, Greece continues to have a prominent economic presence in the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, contributing substantially and significantly to development, job creation, infrastructure building, etc., in our neighbouring country.

        The resolution of the name issue will remove a major point of friction from the relations between the two countries and will allow for full realization of the great potential for cooperation between the two countries.

    3. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:29 pm

      Joe, xenophobic is a word of Greek origin. It describes you to a tee. Your character trait of hate against Macedonians is sickening.

  2. Nick

    November 1, 2013 at 3:25 pm

    There is no country called Macedonia, there isn’t a country with this name recognized by the United Nations. The country where from Pero Antic comes from is a Slavic country with population consisted of 65% Bulgarians and 35% Albanians. Macedonia is a region of Greece and of course Alexander the Great has nothing to do with Pero’s country. Alexander the Great was born in Pella, a place located in Greece. You should be very careful before posting unhistorical things. Keep focusing in basket.

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:32 pm

      No big surprise that bankrupt Greece is in the situation that it is in. Not only is the country bankrupt but many of its descendants on this board are morally bankrupt as well. Macedonians exist as an ethnicity in Greece as well. Just go to the villages of Florina/Lerin or Edessa/Voden and see for yourself.

      1. koga

        November 2, 2013 at 2:40 pm

        The so called “Macedonian ethnicity in Greece” is the joke of the day. The next thing we are going to hear is that soulvaki was discovered in Skopje and feta in Monastiri (or Bitola)

    2. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 3:30 pm

      You are wrong honey, my country ,its called Republic of Macedonia , and im MACEDONIAN and i’ll always be ,like you or not sweet boy. kisses from one Macedonian girl :*

      1. dimitrios

        November 12, 2013 at 9:06 am

        YES … AND THE BEATLES ARE FROM BITOLA!! Amazing people your country has…you are causing laughter to the intire Hystorical Society!!! Everybody is laughing with your people!!! Funny fyromians!!!Very fynny!!

        1. Samuel

          December 18, 2013 at 3:36 pm

          Why shouldn’t Dani call herself Macedonian? I am of course assuming that her passport says Macedonia. My family came from another country yet I consider myself an American. In the state of Ohio there is a city called Macedonia. We also have an Athens Georgia. Does this insult the Greeks as well? (As if they don’t have enough proplems of their own.

  3. konga

    November 1, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Dear author, please change the title to “Pero Antić, the Big Man from FYROM”, the current title is insulting for people with elementary history knowledge. Thank you.

    1. Savvas Papaconstanopolou

      November 1, 2013 at 9:16 pm

      The United States has recognised his country as Republic of Macedonia.. So Take it up with Obama…

      1. Alex

        November 3, 2013 at 3:53 am

        United Nations haven’t recognized such a country

    2. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:34 pm

      “Fyrom” is Athenian or Greek inspired. Most of the world calls the country MACEDONIA.

      1. kogas

        November 2, 2013 at 2:46 pm

        The United Nations call you FYROM, not Athens or Greece..

        http://www.un.org/en/members/index.shtml#t

  4. mmmm

    November 1, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    First of all Moussaka and rolled meat in grapes leaves aka ntolmades are greek food..mr Antic know these foods because he was playing in a greek basketball team called olympiacos!!and i agree with joe and nick!

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:35 pm

      More Greek lies. Moussaka and Dolma (“dolmades”) actually are Turkish in origin. Wow, it’s unbelievable that some actually (mostly from their country) actually believe their lies.

    2. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 3:41 pm

      i made macedonian musaka yesterday and it was delicious.I have to admit that the mousaka is turkish in origin, but i made it in macedonian way :D

    3. Samuel

      December 18, 2013 at 4:05 pm

      I first tasted rolled meat in grapes leaves in Kurdistan (Another place with a naming dispute!) Great stuff!

  5. kkIII

    November 1, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    There is only one Macedonia and this is part of Northern Greece. I don’t think that Pero is a Greek citizen, so that he can be mentioned as “the big man from Macedonia”. You can call him “The big man from Skopje”..

    1. Pontian Greek

      November 1, 2013 at 9:07 pm

      I am pure greek my family comes from trapazounta in Turkey… We are the ancient ones . not the skopjanss..
      Greece land of democracy..
      we have no money left help us please golden dawn…

    2. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:36 pm

      Macedonia was divided in 1913. “Greece” was given 51% of the country unconditonally. Macedonians living in “Greece” suffer to this day. One part of Macedonia is independent-The Republic of Macedonia.

      1. kogas

        November 2, 2013 at 2:43 pm

        Yes my friend, and Adolph Hitler was a peacefull democratic man..

        1. A Macedonian Macedonian

          November 3, 2013 at 3:55 pm

          What an ignorant comment.

  6. Salvatore

    November 1, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    Can you please stick to basketball!? This interview is a total joke. A journalist who has no idea about sports and obviously proves to be totally inadequate in knowing basic historical facts. The so-called “Macedonians” are of slavic origin and moved in the area a few thousand years after Alexander the Great passed away.. The name Macedonia was given to them after 1950 and you can even see the United Nations maps that do not even mention this name until 1961. So leave the propaganda out of sports. Thanks

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:38 pm

      And you Salvatore or is it Salvatorios is sticking to basketball? No I think you are “Greek” and your anti-Macedonian hatred is exposed right away in this post.

  7. Yannis

    November 1, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    SLAVOBULGARIANS & ALBANIANS…NEVER MACEDONIANS…the author is at least offensive to Greece…but what do you expect from a city that bought the Olympic Games….

    1. Yunanistan

      November 1, 2013 at 9:10 pm

      Yannis Bananis, You must be a pure greek, another tourist from Turkey..Keep your racist rants to your self..

    2. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm

      im macedonian girl la la la la im macedonian girl la la la la la :D :D :D

  8. Norbert Schmidt

    November 1, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    This interview is like a joke. Please stick to Basketball, Macedonia and his culture has nothing to do with socalled “Macedonia”, an Albanobulgarian mix country which trying to steal greek history.

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:39 pm

      “Norbert” another “Greek” ashamed of their “Greek” origin

      1. Macedon Greece

        November 3, 2013 at 11:35 pm

        Another ex-Yugoslav ashamed of their genetic throw back of a Bulgarian origin!!!

  9. FILIP NIKOLOV

    November 1, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    GREAT INTERVIEW, PERO WE ARE PROUD OF YOUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. WE ARE MACEDONIANS AND NOONE CAN CHANGE THAT. ALL COMMENTS NEGATING JUST SHOW THE GREEK FRUSTRATION. LONG LIVE MACEDONIA.

    1. Kyle

      November 10, 2013 at 12:20 pm

      It’s good to be proud of a player that does well in NBA, you deserve to be happy! Nevetheless you should also start becoming familiar with where you come from… The sooner you value your Slavic roots the better. Macedonian heritage can never be disconnected from Greece because it’s a story that goes back more that 2000 years of Greek history documented in many ancient, old and modern scripts! Unfortunately, from all these, you only get to keep a name which is also of Greek origin… I think you can do better than that! It may hurt but dropping the name “Macedonia” and finding a proper name of Slavic origin to define your people and culture would be most healthy and the best gift to the future generations of your country!

  10. Nick

    November 1, 2013 at 6:39 pm

    The journalist should have done some basic historical research before making wrong statements in public… Alexander the Great was Greek, spoke Greek and was the king of Macedon. The country where Pero Antic comes from is not related (at all) to Alexander the Great, Aristotle and ancient Macedonia; that is all historical heritage of Greece. Again, the journalist who took the interview should have searched first for basic historical information before embarrassing Atlanta magazine in such way.

  11. jovan

    November 1, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    Pero is Macedonian….our country is Republic of Macedonia….

    1. Nick

      November 1, 2013 at 7:03 pm

      That is fine but relating your country to Alexander the Great and ancient Macedon is historically proven to be incorrect and unjustified… In such terms you do not have the right to use the historical heritage of Greece (or of any other country) as your own…

      1. Bojan

        November 2, 2013 at 3:26 am

        Nick, can you please tell me what the Greeks have anything to do with, say, Phillip II?

  12. nb

    November 1, 2013 at 6:56 pm

    Pero has played basketball a lot of years in Greece and he should have been more careful before saying these nonsenses.

    Macedonia is a geographic and historical region of Greece, so there is no ethnic group “Macedonians”, the people who live in this country are just Slavobulgarians and nothing more..

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:40 pm

      To NB, ethnic Macedonians live in Greece..Go to Florina/Lerin or Edessa/Voden and see for yourself.

      1. nb

        November 2, 2013 at 9:38 pm

        Have you ever been in Florina and Edessa? Have you ever seen “Macedonians” with your own eyes or is just a story that your mama tells you every night before you sleep?

        1. A Macedonian Macedonian

          November 3, 2013 at 3:57 pm

          Yes I have
          Go to http://www.florina.org and read more about the Macedonians in ‘greece’

          1. nb

            November 5, 2013 at 7:38 am

            This is no evidence. Everyone can creates a provocateurical site. I can create http://www.struga.org and say that we have Greek minority in this town. Where have you been? “Yes I have” is not an answer, tell me exactly the names of the places where have you been.

          2. Kilkis1913

            November 5, 2013 at 8:43 am

            The guy that is responsible for “florina.org” admits that he is aethnic and non-religious and that his option of being an ethnic “Macedonian” is a POLITICAL option..

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RacewAzj14

            These are the “ethnic Macedonians” in Greece.. people who do it for political reasons

  13. George_Sachs

    November 1, 2013 at 7:05 pm

    I can’t believe that interviewer Mr. Lichtenstein who made such a totally unliterate provocative “question”/”declaration” as: …”But it’s also very ancient—Alexander the Great is from Macedonia” (meaning FYROM and not the real Makedonia)… does not know Elementary History about the Land of Light (=HELLAS) and just one only of her Great Childs: Alexandros. But after considering interviewer’s surname, I presume the “For what?” (Recall Mr. Henry, Ms. Madeleine and other “friends” of Cyprus and Greece). But dear Jesse for one be sure: Always Apollon’s Light overcome darkness…

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:41 pm

      To “George_Sacchs” another “Greek” ashamed of his origin. Your anti-Macedonian rhetoric is quite transparent.

      1. Macedon Greece

        November 4, 2013 at 3:29 am

        @A Macedonian Macedonian Another ex-Yugoslav ashamed of their genetic throw back of a Bulgarian origin!!!

  14. riko

    November 1, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    Mr Lichtestain because you are totally ignorant of history please check on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_(ancient_kingdom) about ancient Macedonia . As you can see ancient Macedonians had nothing to do with the Slavs like Adic . And by the way when he was playing in Greece he was not saying any bull like this for Alexander.

  15. GeorgeSt

    November 1, 2013 at 7:48 pm

    Mr. Jesse Lichtenstein, when you take an interview from a basketball player, please talk about basketball. You have no idea of history. Do you even know the origin of the name of the city that you live? Do you know anything about history at all? We expect to hear from you your apologies. Moreover, change your title, this guy is NOT from Macedonia.

  16. Μ

    November 1, 2013 at 8:58 pm

    You should ask what exactly is their own language. Why is it a slavic language similar to bulgarian and not the Greek language (Dorian dialect) that Alexander the Great and all Macedonians spoke.

    1. John

      November 2, 2013 at 3:27 am

      And my grandma speaks AMERICAN, and she speaks English, is she British? NO! Stop with the language invalid arguments. Language HAS NOTHING TO DO with how this people from Macedonia feels identifying themselves.

      1. John

        November 2, 2013 at 3:29 am

        Sorry, my grandma Is AMERICAN, and she speaks English.

      2. john

        November 2, 2013 at 6:44 am

        John, no offense but you have no idea what you’re talking about and is completely irrelevant. These people (F.Y.R.O.M.) were posting maps where their country extends all the way to Thessaloniki. They’re dangerous. They only began to be called “Macedonians” after WWII by Tito who didn’t want a Bulgarian minority in his country. After they became independent, they embraced Tito’s fantasies because half the country is Albanian and they would fall apart.
        Come back with those silly arguments when Canada starts claiming Michigan or Oregon are canadian.

        1. dani

          November 2, 2013 at 4:05 pm

          My country is called Republic of Macedonia, and that word began a lot of years before WWII, read history. do you know what was on 2 August 1903 , in Krushevo??? that was the first Balkanian Republic and was called MAcedonia and the people was called Macedonians. Read the right history not the Greek history. and think about the exodus on Aegean Macedonian.

      3. keith

        November 2, 2013 at 2:23 pm

        Dear John. First of all do you happen to know what we celebrate on the 4th of July???Maybe i should spin you up on some history lessons.We celebrate our independence from the British they had occupied american soil for over 170 years.After so many years there might be a slight chance that your grandma is British..Secondly USA does NOT have an official language an Greece has GREEK and FYROM has SLAVOMACEDONIAN which means SLAVIC .
        Anyways you don’t even know American history what makes you think you know Greek history or Greek culture?Enjoy your double whopper with fries and Honey Boo Boo.

  17. Μ

    November 1, 2013 at 8:59 pm

    You should ask what exactly is their own language. Why is it a slavic language similar to bulgarian and not the Greek language (Dorian dialect) that Alexander the Great and all Macedonians spoke.

  18. Solunski

    November 1, 2013 at 9:14 pm

    Jessie, Great intereview. Don’t listen to the so called Greeks. They are all Racists..
    They are worse than the Nazis. Greece has’nt been a democracy ever. Still today you cant freely speak your own language or say you are anything but greek…

    1. Γιώργος

      November 5, 2013 at 12:42 pm

      I guess you have lived there for many years and know how it is… At least the Greeks fought hard against the Nazi’s during WWII – what did you and the Bulgarians do?

  19. Jeremy Jameson

    November 1, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    Mr.Lichtenstein,

    Thanks for you article introducing the person Pero Antić from the country of Former Yugoslav Republic of “Macedonia” who is one of my fondest basketball players I have seen in Europe.

    One correction: the Former Yugoslav Republic of “Macedonia” is not an ancient country but a modern one, artificially created by Tito when assembling regions to constitute the former country of Yugoslavia their inhabitants of which are of Slavic origin – not Greek.

    As such please stand corrected as Alexander the Great, the student of Aristotle comes from the city of Pella in the northern province of Greece known as Makedonia and as such there is no association with the country mr. Antić is coming from.

    So next time you see mr. Antić please send him my warmest wishes in continuing his excellent career and also let him know of what Alexander the Great said to the then modern word:

    Quote No1:

    He said in his own language, which just by coincidence was the GREEK Doric dialect: “Ευγνωμονώ τοις Θεοίς ότι εγεννήθην Έλλην” which means “I thank the gods for being Greek“.

    Quote No2:

    A letter he sent to the Persian king Darius III: “your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Hellas [Greece] and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you“.

    Quote No3 : Speaking to Athenians and Thebians: “We are united by the same language, the same blood and the same visions“.

    Thank you.

    1. Joseph Williams

      November 1, 2013 at 10:10 pm

      You could also mention, that even the Old Testament (in Maccabbees 1) emphasizes the greek origin of Alexander the Great.

      This interview – apart from the sports part – is a pharse.

    2. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:42 pm

      Another “Greek” ashamed of his ancentry. Quite shameful.

      1. Joseph Williams

        November 4, 2013 at 8:48 am

        All commentators the same person? Are you a total moron, you helpless man? Firstly I’m german and besides my comment included only a fact, a fact that is doubtless. Find real arguments or find yourself another playground.

      2. Antonios

        November 6, 2013 at 10:26 am

        It seems to me that you are, more than anyone else, ashamed of your Slavic ancestry, that’s why you try so hard to relate yourself to ancient Macedon – in vain though. It is not a bad thing to have Slavic roots… Don’t be ashamed of it. Accept your background and where you come from like everyone else does.

  20. john

    November 2, 2013 at 12:47 am

    Is this Jesse Lichtenstein supposed to be a journalist? I hope he loses his job after taking this disgusting interview. I don’t blame the athlete as much, but this Lichtenstein character is either really ignorant or has an agenda.
    Whatever it is, he needs to find a different job.

    And just for the record, Alexander was from Macedonia (the real one, born in Pella) not the country Pero Antic comes from. The Slavs didn’t come to the Balkans until almost a thousand years after Alexander had died.

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:51 pm

      John did you know that mostly of southern “Greece” spoke Albanian up to about 200 years ago??? That the evzoni costume is Albanian?

  21. Maria

    November 2, 2013 at 10:37 am

    SKOPJE.The name is SKOPJE

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:43 pm

      YUNANISTAN. The name is YUNANISTAN

  22. konga

    November 2, 2013 at 11:46 am

    Until WWII this area was called Vardarska Banovina (administration of the Vardar). At 29th November of 1943 Josip Broz Tito decided to organize the newborn Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia in republics. He gave arbitrary the name Socialist Republic of Macedonia to this republic. Then they discovered the term “Macedonia”.. Of course, every relationship of this republic with Macedonia (a Greek region) is a just a bad joke. It is like one day for example Austria decides to be named Republic of Bavaria (which is of course a German region..)

    The people from this Slavic country have no national identity, they are mixed Greek fugitives from the Greek civil war (1946-1949) with Bulgarians. Even their former prime minister Ljubčo Georgievski admitted that he is Bulgarian..

    btw, look what he said about Alexander the Greatin this video..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xapsqN8BBp0

    Stop the propaganda unhistorical Slavobulgarians..

    1. A Macedonian Macedonian

      November 2, 2013 at 2:44 pm

      Another”Greek” ashamed of his origins. Wow.

      1. kogas

        November 2, 2013 at 2:52 pm

        Where do you belong? In the 65% Bulgarians or in the 35% Albanians that consist your “country”?

  23. Bobby

    November 2, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    I have read all the comments here, and all i can see is that on Balkans everybody can write his own history. All this ignorant Greeks should read a little more about Macedonia (which name means land of high mountains, and somebody thinks that it means The mother of the world). The name Macedonia belongs only to Macedonians, not Greeks. Then, why Greece is not called Macedonia, but Greece? As a child of a refugee from Greek civil war (my mother was born in Lerin, new greek name Florina), i know the truth about hate of Greeks towards Macedonians. So stop be so stupid, read something else, not just your propaganda. And first of all, to all Arabians from the lend below, check y0ur DNA – most of you are Turks, and the rest are Albanians, and on the north of your country are Macedonians… And for the end… why the Hellenes didn’t let Phillip to participate on the Olympics??? Because he was Macedonian (this is also in the books) Have a nice day !

    1. konga

      November 2, 2013 at 1:34 pm

      Greece is not called Macedonia, because Macedonia is a geographical region of Greece. Greece includes Thrace, Macedonia, Thessaly, Epirus, Central Greece, Peloponnese, Aegean Islands, Ionian Islands and Crete. That’s why..

      The only Macedonians are the Greek citizens who live in this Greek geographical region. People from Thessaloniki, Florina, Serres, Katerini, Kavala, Drama, Pella (the place where Alexander the Great was born) etc.

    2. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 4:17 pm

      Bravo Bobby, so true….and i still can’t understand why Greece is blind and dont want to accept the truth,hmm? maybe the reason is the exodus????

  24. andy

    November 2, 2013 at 2:02 pm

    There isn’t any Macedonian ethnicity, as it was written before Macedonia is geographical place in Greece. These people in this Slavic country (which Tito used to mention as “the garbage of Yugoslavia”) are a mix of Greek refugees from Greek civil war, Bulgarians (and since 1990 Albanians). This Slavic country is the only former Yugoslavian country with no history. Serbia has a great history through the times, Montenegro the same, Croatia also etc. Only this area hadn’t it’s own history, so they in the meeting of Jajce back in 1943 they decided to steal history from Greece..

    1. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 4:20 pm

      read this Andy:
      Macedonia (which name means land of high mountains, and somebody thinks that it means The mother of the world). The name Macedonia belongs only to Macedonians, not Greeks. Then, why Greece is not called Macedonia, but Greece? As a child of a refugee from Greek civil war (my mother was born in Lerin, new greek name Florina), i know the truth about hate of Greeks towards Macedonians. So stop be so stupid, read something else, not just your propaganda. And first of all, to all Arabians from the lend below, check y0ur DNA – most of you are Turks, and the rest are Albanians, and on the north of your country are Macedonians… And for the end… why the Hellenes didn’t let Phillip to participate on the Olympics??? Because he was Macedonian (this is also in the books)

      1. dk

        November 2, 2013 at 9:06 pm

        So, what’s the truth? Why people from Greece hate you? What do your parents have told you? Tell us..

      2. dimitrios

        November 12, 2013 at 9:07 am

        YES … AND THE BEATLES ARE FROM BITOLA!! Amazing people your country has…you are causing laughter to the intire Hystorical Society!!! Everybody is laughing with your people!!! Funny fyromians!!!Very fynny!!

  25. A Macedonian Macedonian

    November 2, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    Everything was great about the article except for the false Greek-inspired comment that Macedonia was a Greek name. Macedonia has always been a separate entity even in ancient times. In fact Alexander defeated the Hellenes on many occasions including the Battle of Heroneya. Many ancient Greek historians make a clear distinction between Macedonians and Hellenes. As for basketball and as a proud Macedonian, every Macedonian is proud of you Pero!!!

    1. Antonios

      November 4, 2013 at 1:01 pm

      Even if Macedonia was a seperate entity in ancient times, it is still not related to your ethnic group which came in the Balkan region along with the Bulgarians in 700 AD; that is 1000 years after Alexander died… It is hence historically incorrect to trace your roots back to Alexander the Great or ancient Macedonia…

  26. aa

    November 2, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Everybody knows that that the name “Macedonia” for this Slavic place was just a Tito’s discovery at mid 40’s. It is also truth that many people forced to go there at the beginning of the Greek civil war by the communist army (because Yugoslavia was also communist back then so it would be a “safer” place for them). When the civil war ended (with a great loss of the communists) most of these betrayers denied to return to Greece and be Greek citizens, because the Greek communist party agreed with the directive and propaganda of the Yugoslavian communist party who had discovered “Macedonian” ethnicity. That’s the story.

    1. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm

      Macedonia (which name means land of high mountains, and somebody thinks that it means The mother of the world). The name Macedonia belongs only to Macedonians, not Greeks. Then, why Greece is not called Macedonia, but Greece? As a child of a refugee from Greek civil war (my mother was born in Lerin, new greek name Florina), i know the truth about hate of Greeks towards Macedonians. So stop be so stupid, read something else, not just your propaganda. And first of all, to all Arabians from the lend below, check y0ur DNA – most of you are Turks, and the rest are Albanians, and on the north of your country are Macedonians… And for the end… why the Hellenes didn’t let Phillip to participate on the Olympics??? Because he was Macedonian (this is also in the books)

  27. A Macedonian Macedonian

    November 2, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Methinks Joe Jablonski Konga Salvatore Norbert Schmidt George_Sachs Jeremy Jameson Josheph Williams Dusa is one in the same. The same person. And his/her ethnicity is “Greek” It’s so obvious. Go back and read the posts and you’ll see what I mean.

  28. kj32

    November 2, 2013 at 3:29 pm

    These silly people from FYROM apart from learning the propaganda that they are descendants of Alexander the Great, they must be also learning that they are descendants of Hercule Poirot and Detective Clause. They are living in the own small world.

    1. dani

      November 2, 2013 at 4:23 pm

      Macedonia (which name means land of high mountains, and somebody thinks that it means The mother of the world). The name Macedonia belongs only to Macedonians, not Greeks. Then, why Greece is not called Macedonia, but Greece? As a child of a refugee from Greek civil war (my mother was born in Lerin, new greek name Florina), i know the truth about hate of Greeks towards Macedonians. So stop be so stupid, read something else, not just your propaganda. And first of all, to all Arabians from the lend below, check y0ur DNA – most of you are Turks, and the rest are Albanians, and on the north of your country are Macedonians… And for the end… why the Hellenes didn’t let Phillip to participate on the Olympics??? Because he was Macedonian (this is also in the books)

      1. mj32

        November 2, 2013 at 9:32 pm

        So, your mother is Greek as she was born in Florina?

  29. Republic of Macedonia

    November 2, 2013 at 3:34 pm

    It must be very frustrating to be Greek and to react on every mentioning the word MACEDONIA in the Milky way Galaxy
    :D

    1. Antonios

      November 5, 2013 at 12:28 pm

      Apparently you are from another galaxy guys when you think it is legitimate to steal the historical heritage of Greece and other countries (it is a joke that you try to trace your roots back to Alexander the Great, Aristotle and ancient Macedonia). I understand that you are a poor country and that you try to unify your people on the ground of “common” history but this is completely fake and it will not work eventually. If you want your country to grow in a civilized and healthy environment in Europe you first need to identify who you really are and what is your background. It is not a bad thing to have Slavic roots…

  30. xtc

    November 2, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    What about Bo McCalebb, is he a descendant of Alexander the Great too?

    1. John

      December 18, 2013 at 2:26 pm

      @xtc Bo McCalebb is a descendant of Alexander the same way Sofoklis Schortsanitis is. Double standards you have, I see

  31. dani

    November 2, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    BRAVOOOOO ANTICCCCCC !!!! SE Gordeeme so tebe! Odlicno intervju!
    Brawo our Macedonian Boy ! You are our proud!!!

  32. Gj

    November 2, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Bravo Pero Anticccc! We all proud with you. Macedonia wish you the best!

  33. dejan

    November 2, 2013 at 8:18 pm

    “one player from FYROM playing for the Hawks for the first time” is the right..

  34. ak47

    November 2, 2013 at 8:35 pm

    Mr Antic while he was playing in Greece didn’t say a word about being “Macedonian” and all these propagandic stuff. Typical chicken from FYROM..

  35. skyclad

    November 2, 2013 at 8:48 pm

    The people who wrote the history books in the the Republic of Vardar must have Joseph Goebbels as their idol..

  36. Maria Repousi

    November 2, 2013 at 8:53 pm

    Cmon people, get serious everybody, Macedonia is Greek, everybody knows that..

  37. Igor

    November 2, 2013 at 9:50 pm

    The funny thing is that all these guys from Vardarska Banovina believe that they are trully Macedonians. They are just a Bulgarian minority and nothing more. Sorry guys, but that’s the truth, don’t get so sad..

  38. sutapanaki

    November 2, 2013 at 10:12 pm

    Too many “Macedonians” jump here eager to show their great knowledge of history or rather their knowledge of history as taught in FYROM. History which is turned into official propaganda in that country, which is well known throughout the world to be based on falsifying and fabricating facts. Antic (his name sounds more like Serbian, then true Macedonian, but that’s a minor hindrance ) is right in one thing – FYROM is a new country, came into being after the disintegration of Yugoslavia. And that’s why history is such a big deal there – it has to be, they want to prove somehow their existence, their origins in antiquity – well the fact that there’s nothing to support those claims is just a small thing, they can always come up with something – be it stolen from Greece or from Bulgaria or cooked up in their “Academy” of “Science”.
    Well, Romans called that geographical region Macedonia, Byzantines called it Bulgaria. Until 1945 Macedonia was no more than a name of a geographical region on the Balkans and still is, irrespective of the fact that FYROM wants to usurp the name for their own use. Irrespective of the fact also that their own professor-archeologist from Skopje, who did extensive excavations throughout FYROM proved that the people there has nothing to do with ancient Macedonians. Despite the facts that Alexander the Great went to conquer the known world spreading Hellenism. Despite the genealogy that proves Macedonians to be of the same breed as Bulgarians and speak a dialect of Bulgarian (in FYROM they like to cite the research of IGENEA, that they are ancient but everyone who knows a bit about that can tell you it’s just a propaganda). There is much to be told about people who don’t respect their past, who cut their roots, who turn the bones of their revolutionaries to make them look like true Macedonians and disregard the fact that they fought for the liberation of the Bulgarian population of Macedonia from the Turks. Todays FYROMians are people who desecrate their temples and churches, scratching out signs pointing to their Bulgarian heritage and substituting them with the fake “Macedonian”. They are the ones who prosecute the few remaining individuals who know the past and respect the roots.
    If Greece was created by Europe and Russia, then it is well known that Macedonia after the WW2 was created by a decree of the Comintern (Communist International). That country is a communist experiment, one of the few that succeeded in splitting up peoples and creating an artificial nation.

  39. Stojan

    November 2, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    It has to be mentioned that in 2001 there was a civil war in FYROM between Albanians and Bulgarians that lasted a lot of months and ended with the Ohrid Agreement (13/08/2001). After that war the efforts of the FYROM’s government to steal Greek history have been maximized. The reason is so obvious, they had to discover a kind of history in order to get an national identity, otherwise the danger for this country to split up in two divisions was very big.

  40. Velimir

    November 2, 2013 at 11:01 pm

    The best proposal was made by Slobodan Milošević in early 90’s. Division of FYROM in four parts: the northern part was supposed to be given to Srbija, a small western part to Kosovarians, the eastern part to Bulgaria and the southern part to Greece.

  41. Monkeydonians

    November 3, 2013 at 8:57 am

    Macedonia is Hellenic, Alexander the Great was speaking ONLY the Hellenic language, not any slavic language!
    All excavations in FYROM are written in Hellenic(/Greek) language, there in not even one ancient script in any slavic language.
    So, Alexander and Macedonia belongs to Hellas(/Greece), you can call your albanoslavic nation “Monkeydonia” if you like, fits perfect to you!!

  42. Vasilj

    November 3, 2013 at 9:48 am

    FYROM is a “country” with full of minorities. In Monastiri (the FYROMians call it Bitola) and Ohrida live a lot of Greek people, in Strumica the population is 100% Bulgarian, in Tetovo there are 50% Serbians-50% Albanians, in Kumanovo all of them are Serbians… It’s a matter of time that this “country’ passes to history.

  43. Monkeydonia

    November 3, 2013 at 10:16 am

    To ALL Monkeydonians, if you bring even just one ancient monument or script from your land in the language that you are speaking right now,
    the whole world will recognize you as descendents of Alexander the Great.
    Just ask yourselves, if you can ofcourse cuz this needs a brain, if Alexander was alive today, could he understand you in a hypothetical conversation with you,
    or he could understand ONLY the Greeks?
    (BTW, it’s not Greece, it’s Hellas!)

  44. 300

    November 3, 2013 at 10:44 am

    King Leonidas was also an AlbanoBulgarian gypsy man from Skopje!
    His real name was “Kingic Leonidov”, you can read the official propaganda papers in the National Monkeydonian Library.

  45. Kiro Gligorov

    November 3, 2013 at 11:40 am

    WE ARE SLAVS, WE ARE NOT MACEDONIANS!
    youtube /watch?v=fyYa3AMtXr4

  46. New Mexico

    November 3, 2013 at 12:21 pm

    Is like saying that a white Caucasian citizen of Albuquerque, New Mexico with blue eyes and blond hair is a native Mexican, a descendant of Aztec civilization!
    Is like saying that author Lichtenstein is a native Indian American, and not a Jewish-German origin (Licht=light and stein=rock)…
    Same with this joke fake “country”!!

  47. Stavros Kostopoulos

    November 3, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    History of Macedonia
    George Rawlinson M.A, Canon of Canterbury and Camden Professor of Ancient history at the University of Oxford
    Ancient History of Chaldaea, Assyria, Media, Babylonia, Lydia, Phoenicia, Syria, Judaea, Egypt, Carthage, Persia, Greece, Macedonia, Parthia, and Rome., The Colonial Press, New York, 1899.

    PART I (ca. B.C. 700 to B.C. 323)

    From the Commencement of the Monarchy to the Death of Alexander the Great

    According to the tradition generally accepted by the Greeks, the Macedonian kingdom, which under Philip and Alexander attained to such extraordinary greatness, was founded by Hellenic emigrants from Argos. The Macedonians themselves were not Hellenes; they belonged to the barbaric races, not greatly differing from the Greeks in ethnic type, but far behind them in civilization, which bordered Hellas upon the north. They were a distinct race, not Paeonian, not Illyrian, not Thracian; but, of the three, their connection was closest with the Illyrians. The Argive colony, received hospitably, gradually acquired power in the region about Mount Bermius; and Perdiccas, one of the original emigrants, was (according to Herodotus) acknowledged as king. (Other writers mentioned three kings anterior to Perdiccas, whose joint reigns covered the space of about a century.) The period which follows is one of great obscurity, little being known of it but the names of the kings (p.164-165)

  48. Steve Harris

    November 3, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    Macedonia is Hellenic, sorry FYROMians..

    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/i/iron+maiden/alexander+the+great_20068056.html

    Near to the east
    In a part of ancient greece
    In an ancient land called macedonia..

  49. Nikolai

    November 3, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    This is FYROM:

    In 4 years the number of FYROM’s citizens with Bulgarian citizenship might exceed 25 % of the population according to tourist agencies.
    Tourist agencies’ data show that the number of demands for Bulgarian passports has increased by 40% compared to the ones from last year.
    FYROM’s city of Prilep might be considered really soon as an emigration city. At least 10 applications for Bulgarian passports are submitted there in daily basis.
    Most of FYROM’s young people except from wishing to embrace their real roots in the neighbouring country, they also want to use the right to work in the EU, something that the Bulgarian passport offers.
    Thus far, around 100,000 FYROM’s citizens have Bulgarian citizenships. The Bulgarian Foreign Minister Kristian Vigenin recently increased the demands for rights of the Bulgarian minority in FYROM.

    Read more http://history-of-macedonia.com/2013/10/21/fyrom-citizens-bulgarian-citizenships/

  50. Cyril and Methodius

    November 3, 2013 at 6:13 pm

    We have to admit that we weren’t born in capital city of province Macedonia in Northern Greece, thus we are not Greeks!
    We were born in a suburb of Skopje, in a small apartment of those typical communist buildings, so we are real “Macedonians”,
    you can find our true biography in the National Monkeydonian Library, in the “Joseph Goebbels” section.

  51. Macedon Greece

    November 3, 2013 at 9:33 pm

    Quote; “Macedonian, after all, comes from the ancient Greek word Makedones—“the tall ones.”

    This sais it all. How can the word “Macedonian” comes from an ancient Greek word & not a Slavic word???

  52. MarkoMkd

    November 4, 2013 at 9:55 pm

    The comment section is as stupid as it can get. If you really think that any nation has a clear bloodline coming from Alexander, you are terribly wrong. Many nations and tribes have gone through the Balkans and obviously, they had SEX with the population here. If you look at the corpses from the ancient Greece and Macedonia you will find that the people were tall and blonde. This is not the case in neither of Greece nor Macedonia.
    This is the same as saying that Italians are direct descendents from the Roman Empire (who were also tall people). However nowadays Italians are short. Why? Because it was invaded many many times by many tribes who ended up having sex there. End of the story.

    Stop arguing for history, it has NO POINT AT ALL. The clever politicians are just using it to turn you away from the real problems.

  53. hr

    November 5, 2013 at 7:52 am

    In 1982 all the people which had left (or were forced to leave by the communist army) during the Greek civil (1946-1949) war could return to Greece only with one condition, signing a statement that they are Greeks by gender. But living for over 30 years daily with the communist propagnada, most of them they denied, discovering their “Macedonian” identity. The same people that 30 years before were saying “I am Greek”, in the 80’s were saying “I am Macedonian”.. and of course their children (people who were born after 1980) were born and were teached with the same propaganda.. The denied their own country and now these people and their descendants are turned against the country their parents were born. In one word: BETRAYERS..

  54. Vojdan

    November 5, 2013 at 8:07 am

    FYROMians are 1/3 Bulgarians, 1/3 Albanians + 1/3 political refugees from Grrece.. and all of them together are claiming that they are “Macedonians”.. Pretty funny..

  55. Damjan

    November 5, 2013 at 8:16 am

    The name for this place during the ages was Old Serbia, South Serbia, Vardarska Banovina but never Macedonia.. Macedonia is in north Greece..

  56. DIMITRIUS

    November 12, 2013 at 9:36 am

    YES … AND THE BEATLES ARE FROM BITOLA!! Amazing people your country has…you are causing laughter to the intire Hystorical Society!!! Everybody is laughing with your people!!! Funny fyromians!!!Very fynny!!
    What I’d like to know is if there is any actual hard evidence of ancient Macedonian writting, that can be directly linked to that of the modern slavic language? That would be interesting… What I’ve seen so far is only greek!!!
    Macedonia was part of Greece outside Greece just like Samos and the rest. So, Alexander the great was a Greek. If he was not a greek, how come he embarked on Hellenism( export of greek culture to the rest of the world)?
    It should be noted that there is NO CONNECTION between the ancient Macedonians of Alexander the Great who were ethnically and racially a Greek tribe, ……and the modern so-called ‘macedonians’ of today of the ‘Republic of Macedonia’ [FYROM], who are of Slavic origin and related to Serbs and Bulgarians.
    Arguments like: He killed greeks how can he be greek are absolutely rediculous. Atheneans killed spartans and spartans killed atheneans in wars because they were considered “different states” but whan you define their ethnicity they were both definetely greek as were the thracians etc etc. Same with macedonia at that time. They spoke greek, Alecxander studied under greek teachers.If you wanna call Alexander a macedonian and not a greek you’re implying that there was a nation back then described as macedonians which is historically innaccurate. All non Greeks were barbarians according to greeks and Alexander truly wasn’t one of em. So he was a macedonian but no relation to republic of macedonia.If you debate ethnicity by how the borders look today,you have no place in historic debates. It is like saying that General Lee killed Americans…so he is not american..the same coyld be sayed for Ul. S. Grand….
    As i Have sayed earlier….Fynny…Historicaly Uneducated …
    “Education is an ornament in prosperity and a refuge in adversity”. – Aristotle
    “Wit is educated insolence”. – Aristotle